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Epigen™

Question:
Re: Wysong Epigen Fish and Epigen Venison Now Available!

Either my math is wrong - or your math is wrong - 60% protein

and 60% meat total 120% - what gives??????

Answer:
60% meat refers to ingredients; 60% protein refers to the amount of protein in those ingredients.


Question:
Why are all of your Epigen ingredients not GMO free, instead of just some of the chicken? Seems like the product is ruined by the non-organic parts. For the cost, it seems like I should get all organic. After reading all of Dr. Wysong's stuff, I am so disappointed that your products are tainted like this.

Answer:
Your concerns are understood and we wish there were no other factors to consider when formulating than the purity of ingredients.

But there are, starting off with the fact that it is impossible in our modern world to obtain perfect and pure foods. There are tens of thousands of both natural and synthetic toxins in foods. Even organics are not perfect. Many fat soluble toxins (e.g.ethoxyquin) are now so ubiquitous that they can be measured in every human and animal tissue.

To create a pristine food, as it appears you expect us to do, would require enormous costs in ingredients and purity testing driving the price far beyond anyone's reach. Tests alone for each batch of product made and for each ingredient would cost tens of thousands of dollars. Are you suggesting that you would pay that cost wrapped up in a product price no matter what it is? If not, what do you expect Wysong to do? The desire for perfect purity and low cost are incompatible.

If you say you are prepared to absorb that cost, then you should consider preparing your own foods at home whereby you can carefully scrutinize each ingredient. But do understand, even then you would not have a pure food as noted above. For us as a manufacturer trying to address the needs of the many while not compromising health, striving for a perfectly pure food with every package tested and verified, is not feasible.

All foods are a compromise to one degree or another. Cost dictates the degree. We have produced completely organic products in the past, but these valuable and costly products aged on shelves to eventually be discarded. We will continue to periodically try, but are not confident consumers will embrace the economics.

In the meantime, we would argue that our products are not tainted nor unhealthy. Quite the opposite. Although Wysong would like to be totally organic and strives for the best possible health options within affordable price ranges, for perspective, one must keep in mind that there is no scientific evidence whatsoever that any pet has been harmed because the foods they are eating are not organic.

A far more important issue in pet feeding is the common practice of singular feeding of starch-based diets. Even if you were to feed all organic starch-based foods in this way, health would be at risk for the reasons outlined in the Epigen website. Since this has and does cause millions of animals to suffer disease and death (real, as opposed to the hypothetical about ingredient purity), we have addressed this with Epigen.


Question:
I am interested in your Epigen dog food, but I am a little worried about the krill oil and how much my dog

would be getting, because it does thin the blood. I would appreciate any info you could give me on this subject. Thank you

Answer:
Although the formulation is proprietary, I can say that krill oil is in Epigen™ at a minor level.

If you desire higher levels we would suggest supplementation. See Krill Oil™. Such supplementation along with Epigen™ would not result in over-dosage.

We are unaware of any scientific information indicating that krill oil thins blood.


Question:
Can you tell me how many servings, at ½ cup per day, are in the 8 lb Wysong Epigen bag?

And can you tell me, also, why there are fruits and vegetables in your cat foods, given cats are obligate carnivores and really shouldn't be eating any fruits or vegetables? I find it so difficult to find a dehydrated raw cat food without fruits and vegetables, which makes no sense, based on the research I've done.

Answer:
There are approximately 28 cups in 1 - 8 lb. bag of Epigen™ (so at ½ cup per serving, approximately 56 servings).

Please see this link regarding fruits and vegetables: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/fruits-and-vegetables.php.

Question:
Thank you. My research has found that cats and dogs in the wild normally let the stomach contents of their prey spill before consuming the stomach lining, therefore they really don't eat fruits and veggies. And for cats especially, fruits and veggies are actually very hard on them since they weren't designed to eat them (much like I probably shouldn't adopt an all raw meat diet for myself...). So added plums and cranberries, etc., makes no sense to me. I can't figure out what the benefit of these ingredients may be.

On a different note, can you tell me how many servings are in an Archetype bag (I see only 7.5 oz bags on Wag.com and your site, though on Wag.com it states in the description that larger bags are available?). We have a kitten that will likely be a 10 lb cat soon, so at 1/3 cup per day, how many servings can I expect? And you may want to mention that offering this information on the packaging or online description would be helpful.

Answer:
Thank you for your thoughts. Please understand that no processed food is the same thing as what an animal would obtain in the wild. The ingredients we choose try to push the food as close to that as possible and make up for the nutrients that processing tends to diminish or convert to toxins.

Do an Internet search on any of our ingredients thus: BENEFITS OF PLUMS, or BENEFITS OF CRANBERRIES.

After 35 years feeding hundreds of thousands of animals through multiple generations, with some pet living into their (unheard of) late twenties we believe Dr. Wysong's concepts work.

There are 5 cups of food in one bag of Archetype™. That would be 15 servings if fed 1/3 cup a serving. We do not have any other size bag of Archetype™, so we do not know to what Wag.com is referring, unless they mean the Archetype Buffet™, which is in an 19.5 oz. bag, and has approximately 12 cups of food.


Question:
I recently received an order of Wysong Epigen dog food. This food had been highly recommended to me by a fellow English Springer Spaniel Breeder in NY. I received the food the first week of July and started 3 of my 7 dogs on Epigen with a gradual introduction to the diet switch. One of these three dogs that was switched to this food whelped a new litter of puppies on July 5th. The food change for this bitch and two other bitches in my home initially went well with very little intestinal disturbance. After 7 - 10 days of the switch I began to notice red staining around the lips and muzzle of all three of the adult dogs that are eating this kibble. I also noted the mother dog having increasingly dark staining on her belly and the fur around her mammary glands. The puppies photographed became increasingly stained on their front (only) paws and around their muzzles as well, where they were in contact with their dam during nursing. When this was noticed I tried washing the affected areas (front paws, chins and muzzles) after at least one or more of their mealtimes each day without success at removal of the stain.

I have show dogs, in which I pride myself with having clean dogs without stains, having coats that are well maintained. After reaching out with my concerns to other fellow breeders and dog exhibitors on a social media site in regards to this new staining I was witnessing, it was suggested by many, as what I had felt, that the staining issue most likely had to be food related in this case of the only affected dogs being the ones currently ingesting this food. The other dogs in my home have maintained their clean white facial/muzzle fur as did these dogs before they started starting on this diet.

I am very dissatisfied with the developed staining on only the dogs (and the puppies of the one dog) that were switched to this food. I have discontinued using Epigen and would like to return the food as it clearly is not a food that my dogs can do well on. Since stopping the food, I have changed them to another high quality diet. In the last few days I am already seeing changes that the staining is slowly fading from all the affected dogs and puppies.

Please let me know what your thoughts are on how to proceed with this situation. Obviously I will not use this food again and would like to return it. I spoke to Customer Service and they had mentioned that I would need to pay for the return shipping on the unused product (I still have two full cases and one single bag ) of this food in order to be reimbursed for the unused cases only. I was also told I had to pay for the shipping before a refund could be made of only the unopened cases of food. I bought your product in good faith and therefore I do not feel that would be appropriate when your product did not provide the results I was hoping for. Please advise me on how you would like to rectify this situation and provide a mutually acceptable resolution. I look forward to receiving your positive response and thank you for your attention on this matter.

Answer:
Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding Epigen™. We are sorry to hear of the issue you have encountered feeding Epigen™. We have had no similar reports even though thousands of animals across the country have consumed this diet for several years. However, it is always possible for some animals to be intolerant to or react strangely to certain ingredients.

We can send you some samples of our other diets if you would like to try them with your dogs. The Optimal™ diets have low carbohydrate content (if that is your goal) and they may work well for you.

As for a return, we will issue a call tag for the boxes to be returned to Wysong and give you credit or a refund, your choice.


Question:
I would like to know the maximum crude fat in Epigen (chicken).

Answer:
The fat percent on the label is a minimum. The actual amount is 13-15% (which would also be the maximum).

Minimums are stated because our foods are made with whole, not refined ingredients, and we are not attempting to target precise percentages since that has little to do with health. See The Truth About Pet Foods Book.


Question:
Can you tell me what the carb content is in the Epigen foods? Is it possible that you might ever include organ meat in the venison variety. Can you tell me if the 60% protein is meat protein alone or it includes the potato protein and any other plant proteins in the formula? Thanks.

Answer:
Other than meat and organ glycogen and plant fibers, there is no carbohydrate in Epigen™.

If you wish to feed organ meats, consider adding the Au Jus™ canned diets, which are starch free™, and contain meats and organs.

As for the protein, approximately 70% is from the meat and 30% from the vegetables. The Epigen 90™ is all meat protein, and does not contain any vegetable proteins.

Question:
Thank you for your response but if there are carbs from the meat and organ glycogen and the plant fibers could you please tell me what percent of the product those carbs make up? Thank you so much

Answer:
Probably less than 5%.

Please note that although manufacturers may detail percentages to appeal to a particular market, a person cannot know if these values are correct without lab testing each batch of product produced by that manufacturer. This is why targeting percentages in foods does not and has never worked for achieving long-term health. One can neither know what the percentages truly are, nor exactly how the percentages impact any given animal.

Question:
Thank you for the information. I do have a couple more questions. I understand that you are saying that percentages are estimates but you do estimate on some nutrients like protein and fat. Is there a difference in quantifying carbohyrates and estimating protein and fat? Also I am interested in the Au Jus food but see that it has no nutrients added. If one adds the supplement that you have for sale that can be used with the Au Jus will it now be balanced? Thank you.

Answer:
Protein and fat content are not estimated.

We recommend the Call of the Wild™ supplement with the Au Jus™ canned diets.

Question:
I am not sure what you mean. Is it different to determine the protein than to determine the carbs?

Another question. How are you defining starch? I don't understand how the food could have carbs but be starch free. I thought carbs and starch were the same thing.

Thanks.

These questions relate to the Epigen.

Answer:
Since we do not use carbohydrates in the formulas, we do not test for them.

Starch is a type of carbohydrate. Not all carbohydrates are starches. We suggest doing a Google search to learn more about the different types of carbohydrates. Please also see the Epigen™ website: www.wysongepigen.net, and the following link: Starch Free™ vs. "Grain-Free": http://wysongepigen.net/Epigen%20Flyer.pdf.


Question:
Either my math is wrong - or your math is wrong - 60% protein

and 60% meat total 120% - what gives??????

Answer:
60% meat refers to ingredients; 60% protein refers to the amount of protein in those ingredients.


Question:
Question:
#1. you claim to have NO starch but then in your ingredients it says you have proteins from potatoes!? HUH?!

#2. you provide no evidence of starches being more harmful than grains. No references, only fluff about your superior product. NEITHER grains or starches are suitable for dogs in my personal opinion, but there is undeniable and substantial evidence suggesting the health problems grains (and more specifically gluten) cause in humans. Using nothing more than logic, you can assume animals are the same (evolving over millions of years and softens only being around for about 150years).

To my point, back your claims with evidence and don't mislead the public as if grains are NOT a problem. Taking the next step and removing starch as well is fantastic! But you did not remove the grains and your claims with this dogfood will sadly never come to fruition as long as the gluten is present.

Answer:
First, starch is a carbohydrate; it is biochemically totally unlike a protein. The proteins used in Epigen™ are extracted from the starches. Epigen™ has no starches--that is the point of the product.

Second, pet foods that claim to be "grain-free" actually have a nutritionally inferior substitute such as potato, peas, buckwheat, tapioca, etc., and therefore are still laden with starches. Starches are the primary problem in pet foods that cause serious health consequences.

If you visit the Epigen™ website, you will see we have posted over 100 references which provides the evidence you claim we are missing: http://www.wysongepigen.net/solutions.php?d=98.

Please see these links for additional information about grains in pet foods:

Starch Free™ vs. "Grain-Free": http://www.wysongepigen.net/Epigen%20Flyer.pdf

Grain-Free Dog Food – An Examination

Regarding starch sources in pet foods: Are grains healthy?

Regarding grain-free pet foods: Are grain free pet foods the way to health?

Regarding the presence or absence of certain ingredients: How pet food companies play the ingredient game

Please follow this link for more information about allergies and pets: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/the-food-allergies-are-cured-myth.php

Also, consider signing up for our free program, The 100 Pet Health Truths. The 100 Pet Health Truths will equip you to become a discerning and educated pet owner. We have condensed Dr. Wysong's 30 years of health wisdom into 100 short and easy messages enhanced with fun graphics and videos. You will also receive coupons totaling $100 for free Wysong products interspersed throughout the program.

Question:
I appreciate your reply, and I agree that complex carbohydrates (starches) are problematic...but so are grains. In my personal opinion however, if you subtract a protein from a starch/grain source, you are not bypassing the problem. It will still be problematic. So the question begs, "which is worse? Starch or grains?". Because you have to almost have a trace of one or the other to even MAKE dry dogfood. And personally, I'll take grain free with sweet potatoes every time.

It's not your product that I have an issue with (other than the wheat extract). It's the Sloan/saying "grains aren't the problem, starch is". That is a fallacy. Both are problematic and it is grains (more specifically gluten) that is the premiere catalyst for cancer, auto immune disease, and obesity.

Also, gluten is a protein found in wheat (is that what your extracting in the ingredients?).

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluten

Answer:
We are aware of the potential problems with gluten, and virtually any other food component. But toxicity must be understood in terms of dose.

See: Toxin Paranoia.

Wysong products, many of which contain grains, have been fed to hundreds of thousands of animals through multiple generations. The results are health, not disease and toxicity. See Testimonials. Actual experience, as we have 35 years of, always defeats an argument.

Our point is that starches and grains are problematic when fed in excess (grains are predominately starch). A reasonable person must agree that to specifically promote grains as the problem, which is the entire basis for the "grain free" marketing fad, is disingenuous. Please review the links provided in my last email.

With respect, you say that it is your personal opinion that the protein isolates extracted from vegetables and grains will cause health problems. The science and research on these ingredients predominantly indicates otherwise. In addition, our inclusion of active enzymes, such as prolyl endoprotease, helps denature the tertiary and secondary structure of potentially problematic proteins such as in gluten.

The belief held for 60 years was that grain/starch is needed to manufacture a dry kibble. Our R&D and the Epigen™ line proves otherwise.

We contend that starch in general has been the real, foremost problem with kibble pet foods, and not grains. You are misinterpreting what we are saying. Again, grains are predominantly starches, so when we say starches are the problem and not grains we mean that to pull grains out of the larger category of starches and cast them as the problem is false. This is the fallacy upon which the "grain free" movement is based.

Nutritionally speaking, all of the health maladies you list are encouraged most by a starch based diet. This is true for both humans and companion animals.

For further information, please review our website and the links previously provided. Subscribing to the 100 Pet Health Truth Program will also be helpful.

Question:
I appreciate your reply, and I agree that complex carbohydrates (starches) are problematic...but so are grains. In my personal opinion however, if you subtract a protein from a starch/grain source, you are not bypassing the problem.

Answer:
Depends upon what problem referred to. Starches and sugars are the problem that epigen™ addresses. See the scientitific references here regarding the serious impact of carbohydrates on health (http://www.wysongepigen.net/solutions.php).

It will still be problematic.

The only potential problem with protein from grains is allergy/sensitivity, which can occur with protein from any source.

So the question begs, "which is worse? Starch or grains?". Because you have to almost have a trace of one or the other to even MAKE dry dog food.

That is not true with Epigen™.


And personally, I'll take grain free with sweet potatoes every time.

We would argue that carnivores are more adapted to protein than carbohydrate, as found in sweet potatoes.

Question:
I hope you are not offended or overwhelmed by my emails, because I thank you whole heartedly for engaging in this conversation. I am always willing to challenge my own beliefs and knowledge, and further understanding/knowledge is well worth the time spent in my humble opinion. So thank you!

We've gotten spread out on a few topics, so Ill try to consolidate a few points:

- I agree that starches are also a problem. I just believe it is unwise to 'cast' grains as not a problem in advertising (but I understand the business side of trying to set yourself apart). Regardless of the classification (how much of a grain is a starch), grains are problematic and not intended for consumption...EVER, not just if you have allergies (again, my humble opinion).

Answer:
From a purest perspective using archetypal design as the measure, we agree. However, grains are certainly not all bad. As Dr. Wysong has pointed out, their agriculture and storage capabilities are the very reason civilization became possible.

So we agree in principle that both of these are problematic, but I disagree with dismissing grains in the advertising. It comes off as you dont feel grains are a problem at all (which from our conversation I know isnt the case). To promote grains as THE ONLY problem IS disingenuous...and so is ONLY promoting starch.



Agreed.

- Everyone/thing is allergic to Gluten (again in my opinion).

That cannot be supported by fact, anymore than arguing that any food, even mother's milk, is allergenic.

Toxicity levels are of course a factor (I will concede that). One person/dog/animal will react more/less severely to exposure than another, but at the base of the problem, gluten from grains contributes to leaky gut at some point...period. Regardless of whether someone/thing is more sensitive to it or not. Leaky gut over time leads to malnutrition, inflammation, auto immune diseases (such as diabetes, skin irritations, thyroid problems, MS, etc), and cancer. ANYTHING that causes irritation within the gut will eventually leads to such problems. Starches and Grains specifically accelerate this process do to their HIGH glycemic load.



In a very indirect sense perhaps.

Controlling Insulin sensitivity and general inflammation are key (just a statement of general health, Im sure you can agree as well). But there are exceptions to the "starch" rule in my opinion. Roots and tubers (sweet potatoes, yucca root for example) are simple starches and CAN be easily digested by humans that do not already show signs of auto Immune disease.



But they present a glycemic challenge as well and contain their own set of toxins, e.g. solanine in potatoes, hydrogen cyanide in tapioca, etc.

Not sure about dogs to be honest, but I would assume since we are both omnivores (because we are, dogs eat fruits, grasses, etc., albeit they would ONLY eat meat if given the choice, they are also evolutionary scavengers and will adapt to food that is available), we would follow a similar (not exact) path to health. I AM only assuming sweat potatoes are healthy for dogs based on this fact. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.



As Dr. Wysong proves, taking adaptation to mean evolution is not supported by science or logic. See AsIfThinkingMatters.com, his Solving The Big Questions book. Creatures are pretty much locked into their genetic programs and only degrade (second law) from there, not ascend in complexity.

- Proteins extracted from grains and starches still makes no sense to me (maybe I have to read up on this more). The protein in grains (gluten) is the whole problem in the first place (again, regardless of how you cut it up as a grain/starch). Just extracting a component from a problematic food does not dismiss that the possibility remains for it to cause irritation/inflammation. For example, extracting whey protein from milk for post workout protein shakes does not mean you do not see similar inflammatory response and insulin release from ingesting the shake as you would regular milk (because you do). If the lactose is not present, those who are sensitive to lactose CAN drink it, but it still doesnt make it compatible to our natural diet or "healthy".



We understand and agree with the theory, but the practice does not bear this out. Again, we have 35 years, and hundreds of thousands of animals through multiple generations that prove otherwise in practice.

- I am not educated AT ALL in how dogfood is made, so I will concede your point. All I know is it is NOT a natural food source, but because of its convenience it has become the STAPLE. And I for one am very excited for this grain free/starch free movement with dogfood. 30 years of experience is great! Personally I have two dogs that I have feed grain free dogfood (taste of the wild) to for the last year, and their skin irritations, excessive shedding, smell, dirty ears, tartar, and gas HAVE ALL disappeared (except for the gas sometimes, haha). One of my dogs nails were also very brittle and easily splintered. They are now strong and healthy. This is the only experience I can pull from and my constant search for knowledge and something possibly even better for my pups is what led me to you. So again, thank you for the conversation!



That is pretty much what we have heard from people through the decades. Dr. Wysong concedes there are a multitude of natural and unnatural foods that can yield health. Rotation and variety are key.

You do not have to apologize for anything, you have written very kind and intelligent letters. I think your mind would delight in the two books on the site mentioned above.


Question:
We were looking at the protein and fat content. Why is it that the new Epigen 90 still only has 60 protein the same as the Epigen. Since you are using more meat wouldn't the protein and fat content be more. If not what is really the difference between the both. We were thinking that the 90 would have alot more protein in it. Do you know what the carbohydrate content is.

The other question we feed our dogs raw but have tried the Epigen and they seem alittle gassy. Is there anything we can add or do to prevent this.

Answer:
As for the protein content, keep in mind that muscle meat has a finite percent of protein and fat, so no matter how much meat you put in, it provides only about 60% protein and about 13% fat.

Other than meat and organ glycogen and plant fibers, there is no carbohydrate in Epigen™. There are no starch ingredients as in all other dry diets.

Adjusting from one diet to another is often accompanied by stool changes, and thirty days or more may be required in some cases to reach a balance. Supplementing with a Wysong Biotic™ Supplement, Pet Inoculant™ or live, active-culture yogurt and cottage cheese should help to keep the digestive tract balanced. Epigen has these factors, but your may require a bit more for the transition.

Also, feeding smaller amounts at the beginning and gradually working up is a good idea with any new food.


Question:
Dear Sir or Madam,

I am interested in Wysong Epigen because I have a cat who is borderline diabetic. I was surprised that despite the claims at the site that the food is appropriate for this purpose, I could not find a statistic indicating the percentage of carbohydrate content as a proportion of calories. My vet has recommended that I should keep this below 7%. I am also concerned that the phrase "starch free" is followed by the trademark symbol, which suggests that it may have a meaning other than its ordinary language meaning.

Please send me information about the carbohydrate content, and explain the precise meaning of this trademarked phrase. Thank you.

Answer:
Other than meat and organ glycogen and plant fibers, there is no carbohydrate in Epigen™. There are no starch or sugar ingredients (the culprits in diabetes) as in all other extruded dry diets.

Wysong's Starch Free™ claim indicates exactly what you would expect – that Epigen™ is a product that is absent starch ingredients. There are no other "starch free" kibble diets available; Epigen™ is the first and only. It is therefore a descriptor unique to our product within the greater pet food market, thus our common law trademark claim.

Also, consider signing up for our free program, The 100 Pet Health Truths. The 100 Pet Health Truths will equip you to become a discerning and educated pet owner. We have condensed Dr. Wysong's 30 years of health wisdom into 100 short and easy messages enhanced with fun graphics and videos. You will also receive coupons totaling $100 for free Wysong products interspersed throughout the program.


Question:
I'm having trouble understanding the following ingredients as non-starch and natural to a carnivores diet:

Pea Protein, Potato Protein, Apple, Beet Pulp, Plums, Blueberries, Tomato, Oregano Extract, Sage Extract, Rosemary Extract.

Then, can you clarify whether the following are derived from the fish meal and chicken fat?

Probiotic Microorganisms (Bacillus subtilis, Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus plantarum, Lactococcus lactis, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus lactis), Ascorbic Acid, Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Manganese Proteinate, Calcium Pantothenate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Copper Proteinate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin A Acetate, Folic Acid, Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement.

It appears obvious that all of the above followed by the word "supplement" are not derived from the meat products.

You should be able to tell I take the diet of my cats very seriously. I'm completely satisfied with Life's Abundance, but if there is a superior diet available, I certainly want to consider it.

Answer:
Starch is a carbohydrate; it is biochemically totally unlike a protein. Epigen™ has no starches--unlike the food you are currently using--that is the point of the product.

For more information about the ingredients in Epigen™, please follow this link: http://www.wysongepigen.net/generalinfo.php?content=ingredientconcerns.

Please also see this article about fruits and vegetables: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/fruits-and-vegetables.php

The probiotics are grown (fermented) on substrates, specifically for the purpose of food use. They are not derived/extracted from fish or other sources. Please note that the use of probiotics in a dry extruded pet food without special licensing, as in the product you are using, is a violation of patent laws.

The vitamins and minerals are produced synthetically or through fermentation, as are all vitamin supplements and fortifiers. Some are contained in the fish and chicken fat.

Please also see these links for more information:

Myth of the 100% Complete Pet Food: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/the-100-percent-complete-pet-food-myth.php

Why Intermittent Feeding?: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/why-intermittent-feeding.php

How To Rotate Diets: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/how-to-rotate-diets.php

Can Pet Health Be Simple?: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/can-pet-health-be-simple.php

Also, consider signing up for our free program, The 100 Pet Health Truths. The 100 Pet Health Truths will equip you to become a discerning and educated pet owner. We have condensed Dr. Wysong's 30 years of health wisdom into 100 short and easy messages enhanced with fun graphics and videos. You will also receive coupons totaling $100 for free Wysong products interspersed throughout the program.


Question:
I have now fully transferred my 2 standard poodles onto epigen 90. Question:

they are consuming lots more water than ever before. Any connection?

They were on Evo.

Answer:
It is not unusual for increased water consumption on concentrated high protein diets. Do keep in mind that Wysong diets are meant to be rotated. No diet, regardless of its merits, should be fed relentlessly(see links below). Consider rotating with the other Epigen™ varieties, Wysong dried and canned foods, TNT™ products, as well as fresh food prepared at home.

Please see these links:

Myth of the 100% Complete Pet Food: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/the-100-percent-complete-pet-food-myth.php

Why Intermittent Feeding?: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/why-intermittent-feeding.php

How To Rotate Diets: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/how-to-rotate-diets.php

Can Pet Health Be Simple?: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/can-pet-health-be-simple.php

100 Pet Health Truths


Question:
Are these starch-free proteins isolate proteins or condensed proteins in the Epigen formulas?

Answer:
Epigen™ diets contain isolated plant proteins.

For more information about Epigen™ diets, please see this website: http://www.wysongepigen.net/.

Also, consider signing up for our free program, The 100 Pet Health Truths. The 100 Pet Health Truths will equip you to become a discerning and educated pet owner. We have condensed Dr. Wysong's 30 years of health wisdom into 100 short and easy messages enhanced with fun graphics and videos. You will also receive coupons totaling $100 for free Wysong products interspersed throughout the program.


Question:
I have been giving my ferret both the wet food and the dry Ferret Epigen 90. My ferret has been having problem with extremely high blood sugar since hse started eating the Epigen 90. I talked to a technical person many months ago who informed me that the Ferret Epigen 90 is made with an ingredient that could raise blood sugar levels. He said that a sugar like base is used to help form and keep the kibble together. I am just writing again to find out if this is possibly. Is there ANYTHING in the ingredients in Epigen 90 that could possibly cause elevate the blood sugar levels in a ferret. Your prompt response is greatly appreciated, as my ferret is in the Veterinarian hospital and I need to get info to give the veterinarian ASAP.

Answer:
The Ferret Epigen 90™ is 90% meat and does not contain any starches, or sugars. The information given to you over the phone, or its interpretation, was incorrect with regard to Epigen 90.

Give Epigen™ more time to help balance metabolism. Also consider varying the diet as suggested in the Optimal Health Program™, with an emphasis on the raw foods.

Also, consider signing up for our free program, The 100 Pet Health Truths. The 100 Pet Health Truths will equip you to become a discerning and educated pet owner. We have condensed Dr. Wysong's 30 years of health wisdom into 100 short and easy messages enhanced with fun graphics and videos. You will also receive coupons totaling $100 for free Wysong products interspersed throughout the program.