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Wysong, I would like to know what brand is used for the dried fermentation products that are added to some of your cat food. Thank you.
Probiotics are not by "brand." They are identified by genus, species, and variety as indicated on our packaging and literature.
Thank you for your reply. I understand what you mean having read all the wonderful information on Wysong's web site. I apologize for perhaps not making my question clear enough. I'm assuming Dr. Wysong uses an already blended probiotic formula of the different strains and variety of probiotics he adds to some his pet foods, so the brand name would be the company Dr Wysong gets his probiotic formulas from. For instance...I take a probiotic made by Now Foods which would be the brand name of the probiotics I take which consists of the different strains Lactobacillus Acidophilus etc., and that's what I would like to know, sorry for the confusion.
Wysong formulates its own probiotics. I cannot provide further information on sources of ingredients as that is company proprietary information.
I understand and respect that privacy, but after doing a lot of research most of these probiotics contain just to name a few... vegetable oil, corn starch, sucrose, silicon dioxide, polysorbate 80, sodium silico aluminate, and ethoxyquin, in which I don't want in my body or my pets and that is my concern and if I can't be assured in truth that none of the above or other garbage ingredients are in the probiotics Wysong formulates (even without knowing the source where they come from that's fine, but consumers have a right to know all ingredients, additives and preservatives so if that also is proprietary information then I'm not comfortable with that.
We understand your concerns.
I will look into whether there are any such ingredients.
But I must say, that even if they were they would be at such infinitesimal amounts that they could not conceivably affect health, and would only be included to protect microbial viability. It may be a situation similar to people choosing "no preservative" foods, when the oxidation that can occur without preservatives is far more dangerous that the preservative being avoided.
Remember, "the dose makes the poison," and follow the principles in the Optimal Health Program™ for best health success http://wysong.net/wohp/.
I am just wondering if you have any suggestions for a non-anorexic or bulimic person who try's to eat healthy and who has been unable to gain weight her entire life. I am in my 40's and have recently had to contend with some food allergy issues and in the process I lost another 10 lbs that I can ill afford to lose and I am wondering which of your products might be more beneficial. I also am wondering about how well you can guarantee the life of your probiotics for dogs when they are on the pet food shelf and not in the refrigerated section as a human probiotic is in the health food store. Do you have any independent testing for live organisms of these products? I have a 14 year old dog who could benefit from your PDG or the biotic ph- but I would like to see some independent tests first. Thanks for any help you can provide.
To answer that best we would need to have more of a feel for your diet. Also, it might be good to have a fecal examination to rule out parasites.
Unfortunately we do not have any control over how stores display our products. If you are unable to find a reliable local source, you may order directly from Wysong if you wish, as we keep the temperature sensitive products in a cooler up until shipment. Also, the short time of shipment will not hamper the effectiveness of the product. Testing has been done and there is good viability of organisms up to a year and more if kept in cool dry conditions. Liquid probiotics are much more vulnerable to degradation.
per a discussion on a cat list, someone posted this study, and I see that pet inoculant didn't fare well for having what it says it has in it? Knowing Wysong as I do, this surprises me that something icky like fortiflora would test ok and pet inoculant would not? here is the link to the study.
We have reviewed the link and the chart lists Wysong Pet Inoculant™ as product W, but there is no product W on the chart - there are two V's though. And, if it is assumed that the second V was supposed to be Pet Inoculant™, it isn't the same ingredients as our product because it only claims to have B. bifidum, L. lactic (sic), and L. acidophilus. The article mentions "In situations where more than one similarly appearing organism was listed on the label (multiple Lactobacillus spp.), no attempt was made to assess the numbers of different organisms because of the difficulties in accurately quantifying different species." Additionally, it is not clear how the product they tested was stored. Storage conditions can dramatically affect viability.
If this study was published in January of 2011, the actual testing was most likely conducted in 2010. We have reviewed our Pet Inoculant™ quality assurance batching sheets from 2010 and determined we incorporated the following probiotics: Bifidobacterium bifidum, Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bacillus subtilis, Lactobacillus plantarum, and Lactobacillus lactis at a rate of at least 180 million CFU/cc. Please follow this link to view the actual probiotics in the Pet Inoculant™: http://www.wysong.net/products/petinoculant-dog-cat-supplement.php.
For these reason we conclude that their assessment of our product was incomplete and misleading.
Wysong goes to great lengths to ensure its probiotics are viable and at their highest possible potency when manufactured.