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Toxins

Question:
Thanks for the load of information, however none of it answered the questions I asked. I need straight forward real answers.

Answer:
The questions you ask cannot be properly addressed with simple answers. The answers are, however, contained in the links sent to you.

Nevertheless, see our replies below.

Does Wysong check for the level of toxicity of the fish they are using in the cat food?
The fish are tested.

Where does Wysong get the supply of fish, fish farms, wild caught, etc.?
A mix depending upon availability and cost.

Does Wysong use GMO soybeans in their pet food?
We do not use soy at this time.

Is the pet food checked for a level of pesticides to be sure contamination is kept low as possible.
Testing for all potential toxins (there are thousands) would not be possible. Most ingredients are tested for some of the more common toxins.

Wysong should be able to give honest straight forward answers to these questions.
We have, but as the information sent to you explains, focusing on a "toxin free" food will make no difference in your pet's health unless you follow the princples in the optimal health program™ (http://wysong.net/wohp/). There are tens of thousands of natural and synthetic toxins. Dealing with this reality and feeding wisely is the key to health.


Question:
I have ordered a number of your products which are made from sources grown in fields I assume all over the world. There is a new hazard that could be contaminating these fields called chemtrails which have been analyzed to contain ethylene dibromide, nano-particulates of aluminum and barium and cationic polymer fibers, etc. These chemtrails have been researched by numerous scientists all over the country and reports written about their discoveries. (see http://imageevent.com/siresat/strangedaysstrangeskies) These chemtrails are being sprayed all over America as well as in other parts of the world.

I would like to know what you are doing to see that these chemicals are not getting into your products via the fields on which your sources are grown. Do you test the fields on which your sources are grown? If so, how do you test and how often? As a Customer I am very concerned since your products are very concentrated and if they do have any of these chemicals in them, they would also be concentrated.

I would appreciate a reply. Thank you.

Answer:

Dear Friend,

There are tens of thousands of potential toxins in food, both natural and synthetic. It would be impossible to test for them all and impossible to find any substance free of potential toxins.

Dr. Wysong's best advice is to follow the Optimal Health Program™ (http://wysong.net/wohp/). By doing so and feeding in variety the chances of toxicity from any agent is reduced as much as it is possible to do so. See: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/toxin-paranoia.php.


Question:
I have been buying your "Wysong" can food for some time now, and found out from a diet nutritionist at UC Davis, CA, pet hospital, that organ meats should not be fed to dogs and cats on a daily basis.

Reason being, is because the organ meat contains Vitamin A, which cats and dogs store in their livers, and excrete slowly, which can cause toxicity , and ultimately impair their health.

On your can "Wysong" turkey/chicken meat, I read your ingredients which does say that chicken liver, as well as turkey liver is added as part of the meat ingredient.

If meat and poultry livers are toxic to the animal's health, why do you include it in your chicken and turkey meat ? Wouldn't it be better for the animal if you left out the organ meat, and if you wanted to use giblets, hearts and kidney meats, can those separately, as they all work best as a balanced supplemental diet.

Answer:
Organs have always been part of the natural diet for carnivores. In fact, those parts of the prey animal are usually eaten first. If organ meats were toxic, wild populations would have ceased to exist many years ago.

Wysong diets have been fed to hundreds of thousands of animals through multiple generations for some 35 years. Some of these pets are now living into their late twenties. No Vitamin A toxicity has ever occurred.

Wysong Diets and the method of feeding Dr. Wysong advocates (Optimal Health Program™), create dramatic health results. (http://www.wysong.net/testimonials.php)

In theory, anything can be toxic. To better understand pet food and the safety and toxicity of ingredients, please review the links below.

Toxin Paranoia: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/toxin-paranoia.php

Truth About Pet Foods: http://www.wysong.net/products/cat-dog-health-nutrition-truth-about-pet-foods.php

So you think Wysong uses toxins in its products


Question:
Paraphrased from a phone conversation.

The customer is concerned about the fish in the Chicken Gourmet being contaminated with chemicals, toxins etc.. She wants to know what kind of fish. Also concerned about soybeans; are they tested for pesticides and round up. She also wanted to know what extruded means, and she thinks that black pepper and garlic are toxic.

Answer:
The fish in the Gourmet Diets™ are mackerel and trout.

it is important to understand that there are no foods, natural or otherwise, that are free from any potential toxicity. Even water and oxygen are toxic at high enough doses. So the issue with regard to food safety is dosage, not presence or absence of potential toxins.

There are risks associated with any processed foods, and even unprocessed foods, if fed exclusively. If foods are given to animals on a rotational basis as part of an IV (intermittent and varied) diet with fresh fruits and vegetables and raw meats as we recommend (see Optimal Health Program™), any possible toxins from food ingredients won't have the chance to accumulate.

Also be aware that Wysong products have been formulated by Dr. Wysong who has researched health, nutrition, and food processing for over 35 years and written 13 books on such matters. Wysong also has over 250 veterinary Clinical Consultants. We are not just a marketing firm, but a scientific and educational organization serious about health and with our own manufacturing facilities.

Nothing is in the products by accident. Everything is designed with health as the objective. Wysong foods have been fed for 35 years to tens of thousands of animals through multiple generations. Quite simply, the products work! They, and the method of feeding Dr. Wysong advocates, create dramatic health results. (http://www.wysong.net/testimonials.php)

Thus whatever you have heard about this or that ingredient as used by Wysong causing harm simply cannot be true. A belief can never defeat actual results. Also keep in mind that such rumors are often perpetuated by pet food marketers who attempt to make demons out of competing products.

To better understand pet food and the safety and toxicity of ingredients, please review the links below.

Garlic: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/garlic.php

Soy: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/soy-myth.php

Black Pepper: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/black-pepper.php

Digests: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/digests.php

Toxin Paranoia: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/toxin-paranoia.php

100 Pet Health Truths Newsletter: http://www.wysongpethealth.net/

Truth About Pet Foods: http://www.wysong.net/products/cat-dog-health-nutrition-truth-about-pet-foods.php

Wysong Processing methods (explains extrusion): http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/wysong-processing-methods.php

Question:
Thanks for the load of information, however none of it answered the questions I asked. I need straight forward real answers.
Answer:
The questions you ask cannot be properly addressed with simple answers. Also, assuming health is your goal. the answers you seek, if given simply, would perpetuate the misunderstandings you have. All answers that will help you achieve health are contained in the links sent to you.

Does Wysong check for the level of toxicity of the fish they are using in the cat food?
The fish are tested, but not for the thousands of potential toxins that could be present.

Where does Wysong get the supply of fish, fish farms, wild caught, etc.?
A mix depending upon availability and cost.

Is the pet food checked for a level of pesticides to be sure contamination is kept low as possible.
Testing for all potential toxins would be cost prohibitive. Most ingredients are tested for some of the more common toxins.

Wysong should be able to give honest straight forward answers to these questions.
We have, but as the information sent to you explains, focusing on a "toxin free" food will make no difference in your pet's health unless you follow the princples in the optimal health program™. There are tens of thousands of natural and synthetic toxins. Recognizing this reality and feeding as in the optimal health program is the key to health.


Question:
Dear Wysong,

I am writing you to make you aware of a newly published paper in Spectroscopy Magazine. The paper, 'Analysis of Toxic Trace Metals in Pet Foods' is a startling reality of the true conditions of commercial dog and cat foods. As evidenced in this paper, commercial pet foods were found to contain toxic levels of lead, mercury, arsenic, and even nuclear waste (uranium, beryllium, and thorium.

http://digital.findanalytichem.com/nxtbooks/advanstar/spectroscopy0111_v2/index.php#/58/OnePage

Did you ever tested your pet food for the heavy metal toxicity and can you garantee that your pet food does not contain these toxic metals?

Answer:
First of all it is important to understand that there are no foods, natural or otherwise, that are free from any potential toxicity. Even water and oxygen are toxic at high enough doses. So the issue with regard to food safety is dosage, not presence or absence of potential toxins.

There are risks associated with any processed foods, and even unprocessed foods, if fed exclusively. If foods are given to animals on a rotational basis as part of an IV (intermittent and varied) diet with fresh fruits and vegetables and raw meats as we recommend (see Optimal Health Program™), risk is minimal...as evidenced by our experience with hundreds of thousands of animals through multiple generations for over 35 years.

All Wysong products are tested. but virtually no animal or human tissue can be found to be completely free of any potentially toxic ubiquitous substances. One must keep in mind that the dose makes the poison. See http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/toxin-paranoia.php.


Question:
Hi,

I got this from someone as I've been trying to remedy my cat's situation. I was concerned as to what truth there might be to any of this. If you don't mind letting me know what you think, I appreciate it. Just some info on what you are using. Only trying to help, I hate to see a cat suffer for any reason. Azmire Kidni Flow ingredients:

Ingredients: Fresh Juniper Berry, Fresh Spring Horsetail, Fresh Corn Silk, Fresh Goldenrod Leaf & Tops, Fresh Cleavers Herb, Fresh Marshmellow Root, Grain Alcohol

This might be good for people but not for cats. Herbs don't help cats and this formula is loaded with herbs. There is no research studies that show this will help a cat, only hurt a cat. In cats it doesn't matter how little you give, it is poison. The reason is this:

Humans have a very sophisticated liver which is designed to detoxify substances that do not belong in the body - including whatever is left over of a herb that is medicinal. In addition human liver function will take the herbal components and break them apart into beneficial ones - even if it is short term benefit needed for medicinal reasons. Cats lack that ability. They lack the liver function.

Herbals are plant-based medicines and cats, as obligate carnivores, are physiologically unable to properly detoxify most plant materials due to a lack of a crucial liver enzyme called glucuronyl tranferases which most other animal species have (including us and dogs). majority of herbs contain feline toxins as well (chemicals such as cyanoglycocides, phenols and the like which humans can process but cats can not.)

What's good for humans is not automatically safe (much less a nutritional supplement) for cats. This important physiological difference means that cats are generally incapable of properly detoxifying all but a very select few herbals. Herbs are not digestible by cats - they lack the liver function to break down plants and especially lack the liver function to break down phenolics, cyanoglycocodes and a host of other "antioxidant" chemicals that are components of herbs (thus toxic in the same way that garlic is toxic) Plants can only be fermented by feline cat bacteria - not digested. So when humans break down herbal components (using the liver) into beneficial subcomponents, cats instead are poisoned as their liver is not designed for ANY plant breakdown at all. Even beneficial antioxidants for people can be pure toxins for cats. Catnip, Slippery Elm Bark being two good cat plant items. THEY need animal protein. Plant protein is toxic to cats and damages their organs. It is why kidney disease is the leading cause of death in cats - the main reason is they are given plants to eat in commercial food etc. If yours have generally had plant protein instead of animal protein as they need, they will have compromised heart and eyes in a short time, and predisposition to numerous chronic diseases. Wholistic Feline Digest All Plus

Each teaspoon provides the following units of activity:
Protease blend 47700 HUT
Amylase 14300 DU
Cellulase 480 CU
Hemicellulase 480
HCU Lipase 750 LU
Bromelain 9500 FU
Papain 9800 PU
Invertase 10 INVU
Peptizyme SP 50 SP
Lactobacillus acidophilus 5 billion CFU's/gm
Bifidobacterium longum 5 billion CFU's/gm Free of Soy, Milk, Wheat, Yeast, Corn, Cheese and other Dairy Products

From what I've learned, enzymes can be dangerous unless there is proof the cat is unable to make them. It's better to feed the basic nutrients and let the cat make the right amount of each enzyme. Rocky Mountain Feline Formula with Roasted Venison & Smoked Salmon

Ingredients: Chicken meal, peas, sweet potatoes, chicken fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols), pea protein, potato protein, roasted venison, smoked salmon, natural flavor, ocean fish meal, DL-methionine, potassium chloride, taurine, choline chloride, dried chicory root, tomatoes, blueberries, raspberries, yucca schidigera extract, dried fermentation products of Enterococcus faecium, Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei and Lactobacillus plantarum, dried Trichoderma longibrachiatum fermentation extract, zinc proteinate, vitamin E supplement, niacin, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate, zinc sulfate, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, thiamine mononitrate (vitamin B1), vitamin A supplement, biotin, potassium iodide, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin (vitamin B2), pyridoxine hydrochloride (vitamin B6), vitamin B12 supplement, manganous oxide, sodium selenite, vitamin D supplement, folic acid.

Right up front in the ingredients are peas, potatoes, pea protein, potato protein. This product is loaded with veggies/fruit and toxic yucca, it is a class one toxin for cats. The protein from this food is plant based, it will promote further kidney damage and raise the PH, definately not the food for a cat, especially one who has already had struvite problems. Cats NEED prey appropriate animal protein not plant, toxic ingredients. Cats have ZERO ability to digest plants. Potatoes contain toxic glycoalkaloids, of which the most prevalent are solanine and chaconine.

Cats can not process these, their liver is not sophisticated enough so potatoes are not good for cats. (The greener the potato the worse it is, as well.) This company is using potato as the starch to bind the kibble. They would be much better off using rice as the starch instead of a toxic potato starch as some starch is necessary to bind kibble.

If a meat comes from a species which cats have not naturally evolved to be able to take down and eat, then cats also have not evolved to safely and properly utilize the particular amino acid ratios of that meat. So ALL of the larger-sized animals are out (deer, elk, moose, cow, calf, sheep, goat, etc etc etc) Prey consists of prey-suitable meat, not meat from larger animals with different amino acid ratios that can harm feline kidneys (kidneys being cats' weakest point). Safest to stick with cat-sized and appropriate prey species such as rabbit, mice, rat, quail, chicken, fish, insects, etc etc etc

Answer:
The pet food arena is saturated with myth, lore, and legend. There is so much inaccuracy in the information presented that it would require a book to properly reply.

Consider the qualifications that the person stating these claims has. Nutrition is a very serious health matter, requiring serious study, research, and experience in health, pathology, toxicology, biochemistry, and food and processing science/technology. A mere opinion expressed on the Internet does not qualify as a factual assessment that people concerned about health should heed.

Almost daily we are presented with questions from people concerned about how this or that ingredient in one of our products is toxic. At the levels we use ingredients we know at the outset such claims are false because our foods have been fed to hundreds of thousands of cats and dogs through multiple generations, with some living into the unheard of late twenties. Either the "toxin" information is incorrect or the actual results (facts/truth) we have seen over the past 35 years are.

Please see these links to help you gain further perspective:

Toxin Paranoia: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/toxin-paranoia.php

Fruits and Vegetables: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/fruits-and-vegetables.php

Myth, Lore and Falsehoods in the Pet Food Industry: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/fluff-puff-and-smoke.php

Starch Free™ vs. "Grain-Free": http://www.wysongepigen.net/Epigen%20Flyer.pdf

Regarding starch sources in pet foods: Are grains healthy?

Regarding the presence or absence of certain ingredients: How pet food companies play the ingredient game

The high protein/kidney disease myth: http://www.wysong.net/pet-health-and-nutrition/high-protein-kidney-disease.php

Truth About Pet Foods book: http://www.wysong.net/products/cat-dog-health-nutrition-truth-about-pet-foods.php

100 Pet Health Truths


Question:
I became aware of your products through my sister, whom uses and testifies to your products. I have spent quite a bit of time perusing your website trying to educate myself on your products and philosophy. I am placing an order, however, I do have a question regarding one of the ingredients you have in some of your products, and also have listed as "safe" under your ingredient definition section of your site, guar gum. The products I'm ordering do not list guar gum as an ingredient, therefore I'm comfortable with the purchase. However, I came across the following information to which I would be interested in the company's perspective:

"Guar Gum: The use of guar gum in canned foods has been shown to reduce the bioavailability of proteins, as in the following study: "Guar gum, a soluble nonstarch polysaccharide (NSP), is a common ingredient in canned cat foods and has been shown to decrease the digestibility of protein in diets for cats (Harper and Siever-Kelly, 1997). You can find the research results at http://www.livestocklibrary.com.au/handle/1234/19826"

Although I am impressed with the specific products I am choosing to order on their face value and hope that my two cats will hop on board, and feel that the products I am ordering will be sufficient to provide the variety you recommend, I am still limited based on the fact that guar gum is an ingredient you use in some of your products.

I also have an 8 year old cat who had issues with "brown rice" at a young age and I had to adjust her diet accordingly. To the extent that I can tell, all of your canned and dry cat food contains brown rice. Do you anticipate offering foods without this ingredient? I am still going to try and switch her to the Wysong diet, however, I'm concerned about the brown rice.

Again, I applaud you on your products and really hope that my cats will convert without issues. I am just interested in the companies view of the use of guar gum and if it is not in all of your canned products, why does it need to be in any as well as rice free products?

Thank you for your time and have a blessed day!

Answer:
We are familiar with the impact fiber has on digestibility. However, since there are no ingredients without a potential downside, one must balance that with the good. For example, do an Internet search: HEALTH BENEFITS OF GUAR GUM. We feel the health benefits of this and all Wysong ingredients far exceed their potential dangers.

Please see this link for more understanding: Toxin Paranoia.

We are so glad to hear you are going to vary the diet as Dr. Wysong recommends. That is not only a key to health but an insurance policy against toxins.

With regard to brown rice, one cannot really be sure of the impact of an ingredient in any particular formula since the formula and processing change the ingredients. The only way to know is to test feed.

We offer many products that do not have rice, including:

Epigen™ dry diets

Optimal Line™ dry diets

True Non-Thermal™ raw diets

Au Jus™ canned diets

Stew in Gravy™ canned diets

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